DreamSpeak 50 Matt Jones

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1、DreamSpeakAnInterviewWithMattJones©MattJonesQuestionsbyRobertWaggonerSomeluciddreamresearchershavesuggestedOBEsmaybeluciddreams,whileothersseeluciddreamsasdistinctfromOBEs.Videoproducer,MattJonesheadsthepopularSaltCubeforum,whichfocusesonbothOBEsandl

2、uciddreams.TheLDEwelcomesMattJones....Matt,youhaveexperiencednumerousluciddreamsandOBEs.Whichcamefirstforyou:theluciddreamsortheOBEs?Howoldwereyou?Howdidyougetdrawnintothis?ThanksRobert,attheendofthisarticleI’dliketogiveyourreadersafreeOBEinductionto

3、olandalsolettheminonthesecretofwhatisthesinglebiggestmistakebeginnersalmostalwaysmakewheninducingOBEs.Toansweryourquestions:I’dhadseveralluciddreamsbeforeI’dhadanyOBEs.Ihadmyfirston-purposeOBEwhenIwas27inthesummerof2004.IwasdrawntoOBEsbecauseIwantedt

4、oseeiftherereallywasorwasnotanythingotherthanjustthephysicalworld.Iwantedawaytoseeformyselfwithouthavingtorelyonsecondhandreportsofwhatthenonphysicalpartsoftheuniversearelike.Whatdoyourecallofyourfirstluciddream/s?(orOBEs).Whataboutthemgotyouexcitede

5、noughtoinvestigatethemmoredeeply?MyfirstOBEwasverylowenergy,itwasn’tanythinglikewhatmostofthebookssayit’slikeinwhichtheydescribegrandadventuresandepicspiritualexplorations.TheseparationitselfhadalotofvibrationsandrushingnoiseswhichmeantIwasn’treallyr

6、elaxedenoughforacleanexit,butIwasabletomakeitoutanyway.(Manybookssaytoinducevibrationsbutthisisamistake,vibrationsareaformofnonphysicalfrictionandyouwasteenergywheninthem.It’smuchbettertorelaxintothequietzoneaftervibrationsbeforeyouattemptaseparation

7、.TheexitwillbesmootherandtheOBEwillbemuchbrighterandmoresolid.)IhadexitblindnessandcouldbarelystandupbecauseIhadsuchlittleenergy.Istumbledawayfrommybedandwasabletogetmysightworkingalittlebitandseethenonphysicalversionofmybedroomdimly.Icouldseethatitw

8、asdefinitelydifferentandIwasdefinitelynotphysical.ForinstanceIhadacomputeronadeskwhichappearedtobeadifferentshapethanitwasinwakingawareness.Istaggeredovertothewindowandlookedout,therewereanumberofpeopleintheiryardsdoingvariousdaytodaytasksbuttheywere