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1、DreamSpeakAnInterviewwithJayneGackenbach,PhD©JayneGackenbach,PhDQuestionsbyRobertWaggonerAprofessoratGrantMacEwanUniversityinEdmonton,Alberta,JayneGackenbach,Ph.D.hasalonghistoryandpassionforresearchingluciddreamers,consciousnessandtechnology.Authorofsevenbooksandanearlyscientistinthisfield,theLD
2、Esoughtherouttodiscussherpastworkandcurrentinvestigationsintoluciddreamingandvideogames.WelcometotheLDE.Wereachabroadaudienceofluciddreamers.Somearenewtoluciddreamingandhavelittleawarenessofthescienceofluciddreaming’searlyhistory.Howdidyoufirsthearaboutluciddreaming?Jayne:Iwasingraduateschoolands
3、ickofdoingworkonfeminism.Thisisinthe‘70’s.Istartedreadingbooks,likeRobertMonroe’sJourneysOutoftheBodyandCeliaGreen’sLucidDreamsandPattyGarfield’sCreativeDreaming,andstartedhavingtheexperiencesafterbeingexposedtothem.Atthesametime,theNDE(neardeathexperience)bookscameoutandIhadafamilymemberwhowasve
4、ryelderlyanddyingandIhadsomeexperiencesthere.Sowiththereadingandtheexperiences,itallmergedtobringmyattentiontoitSohowwasitthatyoucametohearaboutitasascientificprocess?Jayne:IwasinRichmondVAandmyfatherhadbecomeveryenamouredoftheAssociationforResearchandEnlightenment(ARE)whichistheEdgarCayceinstitu
5、teinVABeach,andIlookedthereandfoundScottSparrow’slittlepamphlet[note:ScottSparrowwrotethebook,LucidDreaming:DawningoftheClearLightandfocusedonspiritualaspectsofluciddreaming].ItdescribedsomeoftheexperiencesIwashavingandjelledwithwhatIwasreading.OnethingledtoanotherandIneededtodoadissertationpropo
6、sal,soIthoughtthisareawouldbeinterestingtolookat.Didn’tseemtobealotdoneonit,nodissertations,andmostoftheworkwasPatty’sandCeliaGreen.Iwasasocialpsychologistinorientation,andsothatisthedirectionIwent.IgotagrantfromtheAREtosponsormyresearchontheirmembers,whohadalreadyparticipatedina30daycollectionof
7、dreamdata.Wasitdifficultdoingadissertationonluciddreamingbeforeluciddreaminghadbeenproven?Jayne:It’sprobablydifficulttoday,still.[laughs]Basicallymymajorprofessordidn’tcaretoomuch,aslongasIusedsocialpsychologicalmethod